Questions Thread

[PrlUnicorn]

I have a question regarding:
Coven Killer Defeat G'nort, Tormay, Matt, Kheldar, Neo, and Mur in their respective sports

Since Tormay hasn't been seen in ages (last duel on the standings was 2010/09/30, well over a year ago) is it possible that the requirements for this badge might be amended to change his name to that of a more active character?

[Rena A Cronin]

I was told to post this here, so here we go.

Concerning the Dangeresque, it says you have to win one of each duel in a week: is that a physical week(Sunday-Saturday) or can it be within seven days of one to the third?

[G]

The seven days is within the start of One Sport to the end of the last one. So, if DoS starts on Thursday, it would be Thursday to Wednesday. DoM would be Tuesday to Monday and DoF would Monday to Sunday.

Fight nights count as part of DoS's week.

[Andrea Anderson]

I have a question about the Awe achievement. By weekend, does it mean only Saturday and Sunday? Or is it like Dangerous where a "Week" can be any 7 days linked together? Would DoF Wednesday be linked with Fight Night Friday since DoS Thursday doesn't allow a chance to do DoF? Or does it need to be Tuesday + Wednesday, and that's if this whole question isn't silly if it's only Saturday / Sunday.

[Lem DeAngelo]

On this thread the latest achievements were announced. It says "They are retroactive from the implementation of the Achievements."

Just to clarify, that means the new achievements are retroactive back to the implementation of the original achievements? 14 November 2010?

[G]

On this thread the latest achievements were announced. It says "They are retroactive from the implementation of the Achievements."

Just to clarify, that means the new achievements are retroactive back to the implementation of the original achievements? 14 November 2010?

Yes, though for for the sake of making it even, just say November 1st, 2010. So the batch we just came out with, you can request them for the above date on.

And there's that separate list for certain achievements that go back to forever, so long as you can provide the proof of it.

[Rakeesh]

Q: Does a sponsored event need to be called my an official with a DUEL in their name, or can it be a Squire Tournament or Grant Tournament called by a Baron or Overlord? Would an event like that count towards achievements?

Q: What makes up an eligible "team event"? Would a TDL-style exhibition match between two teams make up such an event?

[G]

Q: Does a sponsored event need to be called my an official with a DUEL in their name, or can it be a Squire Tournament or Grant Tournament called by a Baron or Overlord? Would an event like that count towards achievements?

Q: What makes up an eligible "team event"? Would a TDL-style exhibition match between two teams make up such an event?

A1: Caller achievements would be acquired by official DUEL names(Though if those callers want it on their character without a duel name, I accept that. For example, Rena and Apple both have caller achievements that were gained from their DUEL names of the same character)

It also only applies to official dueling events like Talon, Warlord Tournament, Diamond Quest, AMT, Panthers Claw, All Ranks Tournaments. I don't know if I'd grant it for things like King of the Ring or Megabrawls because those rules are different and are based off of participants going at it at the same time rather than individual duels called.

A2. Team Events would be Officially sponsored events like Team Dueling League, Iron Fists League, World League, Hydra, Tour de Rhydin, and the like. Two captains getting together and saying "Let's have your team face mine" and one wins wouldn't count towards it. I would venture to say that it'd have to have a minimum of Four Teams, not be exclusive and be considered official by the Duel Coordinator of the specific sport being fought.(Or Sports if it entitles more than one)

Example, Intergender Wars would not be included in the team achievements, but the Team Tournament held a few years back that had.. Four or Eight? teams in it does count since the Coord at the time was running it. (Me.)

To give an example of this, WoW achievements can't be obtained from playing EQ. So achievements are gained from official RoH events.

[Rakeesh]

Awesome. Makes sense!

[Kalamere]

Question on Working Class Hero, Gem Cutter and Siege Master.

Do the qualifying duels need to be "regular" duels, or could challenge duels won count towards this? I ask since the challenge duels are equally verifiable and if you win the challenge you're sorta unable to add that title to your list via regular duel for a while (possibly a long while if you look at some of the Baron tenures).

[G]

Challenge duels *could* count, with the exception that the duelist would need to win the overall challenge. Like, if you take your recent Opal challenge into account. I would count you as defeating the Shadowweaver Opal, because you won that challenge for Shadowweaver. So, you beat that Opal.

You can add that, plus if you have 4 wins against each of the other Opals, and get the Gemcutter.

However, if you defeated 4 Opals, but in your challenge match you Lost the challenge and went 1 win, 2 losses, I would not count that towards the achievement as it's still a special event and you didn't "Beat" that Opal.

I hope I explain it well enough. Basically, for a challenge match to count towards the achievement, you have to win that entire challenge match.

That's what I would say.

[Kalamere]

Cool, thanks. Mostly just curious, I'm nowhere near having any of those unless I count duels prior to the introduction of the achievements =)

[PrlUnicorn]

I noticed that people have been awarded Sorcerer's Apprentice and Mentored without actually fulfilling the posted requirement.

This group is a three pack, one per sport:
Mentored - Be Mentored by the holder of an Opal (Fists)
Squire - Become a Squire to a Baron (Swords)
Sorcerer's Apprentice - Be a Keeper's Neophyte (Magic)

The reasoning seems to be getting mentored by a title holder. However Emeralds, Opals, and Diamonds can have mentees. Keepers (including the Archmage/Celestial Keeper) and Mages may have neophytes. Warlords don't have trainees, only Barons do.

Matt addressed a similar question regarding Mentored - Be Mentored by the holder of an Opal
http://www.ringsofhonor.org/forums/view ... 539#149539 Nappy was awarded the achievement at some point, but the question wasn't fully answered.

This might answer the question as to why Elaine's request here was not completed as her mentor was not among the Keepers on the standings she noted:
Celestial Keeper/Archmage: Vincent V.M. Smith since 02/08/13
Keeper of Air: Lem DeAngelo 03/14/13
Keeper of Earth: Mur Ollavan 04/10/13
Keeper of Fire: Charles Blackstone 01/17/13
Keeper of Water: Matt Simon 01/27/13

Shadow is now Keeper of Fire, but the point is, why are people asking for these before they should be? Or have the requirements been changed and not noted? If it's the latter, when will they be updated and, in the interest of fairness, will Warlords and the Overlord be allowed trainees, too? Squires are the only group that are currently allowed to have the +1 modifier without their Baron being present, that might be a balancing point as to why Warlords don't have students on the standings.

[Rachael Blackthorne]

According to Neo, who was in charge of DoM at the time when I requested the achievement on 11/24/2011, he told me to request at that time for the achievement description to read as follows:

Sorcerer's Apprentice: Be a Mage's Neophyte

Why he did not request the change himself, or the description was not then changed when I received the achievement, I cannot answer.

If the decision is that the achievement should be rescinded for those who received it in error according to the current posted standards, I can live with that.

[PrlUnicorn]

If the decision is that the achievement should be rescinded for those who received it in error according to the current posted standards, I can live with that.

The point of my question is not to ask for achievements to be rescinded, it's to get things on the same page. If, for instance, it should be Mage's neophyte not Keeper's then people might have earned the achievement and didn't ask for it because of the wording.