Challenge to the Third

[G]

What I find ridiculous, Gnort, is how you so quickly question Cletus' honor when he had nothing to do with this decision. It's insulting.
If you have a problem with the decision, direct your words to the barons, or better yet, grab a damn weapon and unseat them.

~Magnus~

I'm not questioning Cletus, really. Max, however, I do. He could stand there and simply let Cletus hit him without doing anything. Wouldn't be Cletus' fault.

The fact remains, if I were challenging and got a champion, everyone and their mothers would be out there yelling for blood if say, Kaja, or Tareth were chosen as the champion.

You may not see anything wrong with that situation, but then, you're vision is clouded and biased not only due to your long standing relationship with Cletus, but also as a member of this "Triumverate"

G

(Please excuse any spelling mistakes.)

[G]

If some in the community are unhappy with the current political make-up of the Baronial Council, I remind them that the power to effect change is in their hands.

Become a Warlord.
Challenge and replace a Baron.
Cast your votes in the next Council.

(signed)
Xenograg kathu-Darelir,
Fourth Overlord of the Duel of Swords,
Current Baron of the Eleventh Ring of the Duel of Swords.

I am a bit surprised at your response. Of all those still present, I'd expect you to see something wrong with this decision. And while it is in my hands to do something, which I will do as soon as possible, it should never come to this sort of situation where such an incident occur.

I would expect you to be against such sort of things.

G

[Baphelocutis]

Xenograg,

I believe I mentioned that I am a Warlord with the peers to challenge and that I asked for a disclosure of who voted which way so that I might know who to target in my disappointment of this resolution. I have yet to hear any disclosure from any baron on which way they voted. It would seem to me a dueler who earn his title by the sword would be willing to defend the title by the sword to back up their convictions and their style of leadership in these hallowed rings. I would like to know who voted in favor of allowing Max to duel Cletus so I may have the chance to replace them in hopes of helping to prevent this in the future.

[Baphelocutis]

Official Rory,

Are you saying there is no mechanism for a revote? Surely if ultimately the Supervisor can overturn the decision by the combined minds of the titled holders in our sport, surely they could do something more minor and veto the discision to send it back for reconsideration. To me that seems even better than the power to overturn and is more fair to the community to prevent tyrranical abuses. And what about the fact that not all barons were advised of this issue? I can understand not letting barons add their vote for simply ignoring the situation, but to not get to vote for not being advised? I believe former Baron Arithon can better take up that issue.

[Max Blue]

G,

Since we're on the subject of keeping the duels as free of corruption and unfair treatment of the rest of us, how about getting off your fat, lazy ass and getting my ring back from Tareth? Since his little hissy fit after our challenge, i've not recieved a thing.


MQB

[Rory Laurent]

Are you saying there is no mechanism for a revote?

I am allowing no revote. I set a deadline for this matter to be resolved. The Overlord pushed that deadline but I will not draw this matter out further by insisting on a revote. Insisting on a revote, in my opinion, usurps the power of the Baronial Council. I was not privy to the discussion. I do not know the reasoning for their decision. Even if it was based solely on politics and in Max throwing the match, that is the nature of the beast of the Council.

And what about the fact that not all barons were advised of this issue? I can understand not letting barons add their vote for simply ignoring the situation, but to not get to vote for not being advised? I believe former Baron Arithon can better take up that issue.

I am not the Council's babysitter. A letter was sent to each of them and posted to this corkboard. If they do not give the Supervisor's office current addresses for themselves or check the corkboard regularly, this is not my fault but their own. In my opinion, lack of effort on the part of the barons is no reason to put the Warlord Ganderfald at more of an inconvience by delaying this challenge further.

Therfore, I repeat, the Council's decision will stand.

Rory Laurent
Assistant to the Supervisor of the Duel of Swords

[Tasslehofl Momus]

I am allowing no revote. I set a deadline for this matter to be resolved. The Overlord pushed that deadline but I will not draw this matter out further by insisting on a revote. Insisting on a revote, in my opinion, usurps the power of the Baronial Council. I was not privy to the discussion. I do not know the reasoning for their decision. Even if it was based solely on politics and in Max throwing the match, that is the nature of the beast of the Council.

Since you will not press this matter, I feel only that the suprime duelest, the lady Overlord, be the one to press the matter. She has already stated that this matter leaves a bad taste in her mouth. If the Supervisor will not step in, then I feel the Overlord should.

[Deluthan]

It takes more than one Baron to make a vote. If you take issue with Max's election as champion, don't blame Max. Blame the two Barons who voted for him in either support or ignorance of Max's relationship with the challenger. Blame the two Barons who did not bother to vote, for if they did, Karen could have made the tiebreaking vote for another champion.

As they should, the supervisors have taken a nonpartisan stance, and in their eyes, with a vote made and a champion elected, the situation is resolved. If you don't like it, then challenge for a Barony and make your voice heard.

Deluthan

[Tasslehofl Momus]

If you don't like it, then challenge for a Barony and make your voice heard.

I see.. I was unaware that only Baron's were allowed to have their voices heard. Thank you for this insight.






*For those too thick-headed to understand the previous, please note the sarcasm*

[Max Blue]

I don't like the way the Magnus/Arithon challenge turned out. Can we get a re-duel on that?

MQB

[G]

I don't like the way the Magnus/Arithon challenge turned out. Can we get a re-duel on that?

MQB

If there was something like a conflict of interest in that duel, like say, someone having a potential for throwing a duel, then I say let it be redone. However, just because your "triumverate" member lost is no reason to refight it.

And if you are not gone by the time I have my 10 peers, then expect it. And those will be the only ways I will fight you, is in a challenge. So don't expect any duels before then against me.

If you cannot see the conflict of interest in you being champion, then you are a bigger fool than I thought.

G

[Rakeesh]

While I agree with the Overlady and many others here, I must say this - if she is not able, or willing, to overturn the vote... I can only suggest one thing; should Max fail as Champion, Warlords with the necessary peers who disagree with this event should challenge Cletus for his barony.

If the Overlady wins her challenge against Damien, am I wrong in thinking that she has the ability to grant a Warlord a Baronial challenge? She has the power to set things right, then, one way or another. I would, as I'm sure others several others would, be more than happy to take the challenge upon myself, as my affiliated group is certainly not the Triumverate.

Also, while Max has not been known to have the highest scruples of a duelist, I have some kind of instinct that says that he will test Cletus to the best of his abilities. Perhaps my instinct is wrong, but I see this situation resolving itself one way or another, if everyone would just calm themselves long enough to allow it.

[Max Blue]

Anyone else notice how i'm the only one who can start any kind of activity on these corkboards anymore?

And G, go ahead and take it personally if I laugh at you for thinking I was challenging, or even wanting to duel you. Proved my skill over yours before, won't be hard to do it again.

MQB

[G]

G,

Since we're on the subject of keeping the duels as free of corruption and unfair treatment of the rest of us, how about getting off your fat, lazy ass and getting my ring back from Tareth? Since his little hissy fit after our challenge, i've not recieved a thing.


MQB

This, Max, was you challenging me. And do not forget that I have bested you as many times as you've bested me. So don't act like it'd be a sure thing.

G

[Magnus]

Your vision is apparently clouded too, Gnort, as you seem to have a previous relationship with Max. Don't pass judgement too quickly.

You say there is a chance the duel will be thrown. From a pessimistic perspective, there is always a chance a duel will be thrown, challenge or otherwise. I guess we should just all be safe about it and never duel anybody we are affiliated with. No more duels 'in good fun' like your most recent challenge to Grayson.

Or maybe, just maybe, you can consider that we aren't corrupt, that Max wouldn't throw a duel, and that Cletus wouldn't strike him down even if he was.

~Magnus~