Overlord Challenge

[Max Blue]

"He's giving Max a hard time for the hassle Maxie has been giving him."

Example A: Max wins a baronial ring after showing intent to challenge for weeks prior to even the WLT, goes through a challenge for his ring a week after winning it, then issues challenge to Cory.

Example B: Max wins a Warlord Tournament and becomes Overlord. G'nort Dragoon-Talandor issues challenge to Max less than two days after winning the title.

Tell me what the big difference is?

"O'course, I think 'e's still a better Overlord than Max'd be."

And this amazes me. Apparently we don't want to acknowledge the fact that I am a former Overlord, so here's the painful truth and reminder. I was the 57th Overlord.

You all are being pretty vague in your accusations and have absolutely nothing to back anything up with.


Max Quinlan Blue

[The Amazing Nova]

I hear Max was scheduled to be impeached before he lost his previous Overlord title. There are still rumors circulating that he molests insects and small woodland creatures. He's a filthy animal. He shouldn't be allowed to challenge.

MACKENZIE FOR OVERLORD
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[Ticallion Carter]

I have a question. Don't take this like I'm defending Max, actually..take it like that if you want.

How is Max giving Cory a hassle? From what I've seen this is what happened:

1. Max challenged Cory for Overlord after he won a Baron's ring and shortly after Cory won Overlord.

2. Cory lashed out at Max in a public arena claiming because of #1, Max isn't the best "candidate" for Overlord (assuming candidate means someone who has a legitimate right to challenge and can beat the encumbant).

Oh and if you want some weak evidence to support your "Max is giving Cory a hassle" statement I have some for you. Somewhere in between #1 and #2, I saw Max and Cory fighting in the Arena. I don't know if that has anything to do with this, but it really doesn't matter. People fight in the Arena all the time, even outside of the rings.

Bottom line is, Max has the right to challenge Cory whenever he wants. There's nothing the rest of you (or us if you want me to be politically correct, since everything is political now) can do about it until the challenge is over. If challenging the Overlord is a hassle for the Overlord, maybe the Overlord shouldn't put themselves in a position to be challenged..of course that means the Overlord shouldn't be Overlord since that's a title that is constantly under challenge. So again, where's the hassle? Because if challenging is constituted as a hassle, then we all should stop dueling right now.

Oh yeah. Before I forget, I don't want the Overlord to organize things for me. I'm perfectly capable of organizing things for myself. Now if you all are talking about organizing things for the Sport, that's a different matter entirely. But why do we have to depend on an Overlord to do that anyway? When a sports team wins the championship, do they organize functions for the whole league? I think if there's a call for us to organize anything, we should do it ourselves. Or the staff will do it. If the Overlord wants to organize something under their own power, hey, more power to them. I don't think it's something we should depend on them to do or judge them by how many charity auctions they've organized. Overlords are supposed to do basically one thing: win. The minute they stop doing that (in a challenge setting), they aren't Overlord anymore. Sure it's nice if the Overlord is a nice person and organizes things like that, but we don't need to make that a criteria for a "good" Overlord.

Then again..Cory seems pretty adamant about being a politician.

[G]

I'm not saying Max doesn't have the right to challenge, I'm saying he doesn't deserve to challenge. Not stating that as a fact, but as an opinion. If you're a Ren. Baron, or a Warlord with 15 Peers, you have the right to challenge, but there's a bunch of people out there who I feel don't deserve to. For Baron or Overlord. Maxie is one of them.

Clarifying that.

As to..

[q]Example A: Max wins a baronial ring after showing intent to challenge for weeks prior to even the WLT, goes through a challenge for his ring a week after winning it, then issues challenge to Cory.

Example B: Max wins a Warlord Tournament and becomes Overlord. G'nort Dragoon-Talandor issues challenge to Max less than two days after winning the title.

Tell me what the big difference is? [/q]

Difference A is I don't feel you're a fitting Overlord. B is that you only want to challenge for the Overlordship because of greed. Not saying you don't have the right to do it, but am saying you don't deserve the title. And that opinion will stay until you act like a better person.

[Max Blue]

"Difference A is I don't feel you're a fitting Overlord. B is that you only want to challenge for the Overlordship because of greed."

Let's clarify another thing. What isn't a greedy reason to issue challenge to the title?

You could say because the person isn't worthy of it, but then again, that comes down to an opinion and a certain person wanting to have their way. Greedy.

Winning the Warlord Tournament? Nope. No reason to enter the tournament than for yourself. Greedy.

Banishment? Greedy. Only reason for that is to settle a personal grudge regardless of who got there first.

Don't just sit there and say "You're wrong."

So far there's been absolutely nada to back up anything you guys are trying to blame me for and frankly, I don't think you have anything, either.

Max Quinlan Blue

[QuickVarMG]

Someone please tell me exactly what Cory's done to be such a damn fine Overlord. Has he sponsored any tournaments or opened a school for young duelers? Nope. Has he been particularly exciting or brought anything new to the sport? Nope. Is he a great "King of the Hill" Overlord and an amazing duelist? Nope.

His entire reign so far has been boring mediocrity. Now he has a chance to prove if he's really the top of the heap and what does he do? He waits until the last possible moment to accept Max's challenge and then he schedules the match for the last possible day that the match can be fought according to the rules and then says that a former Overlord and Baron isn't worthy of stepping into a ring against him. If that doesn't scream "I'm a challenge-ducking panzy" then I don't know what does.

His reign is far from boring mediocrity. After all, we are piling a stack of papers on this once bare corkboard. While I admire grace and dignity, sometimes fire and passion is needed to get things going. Boring would have been the typical "Okay, I accept, this is the date and time, good luck."

And I can tell you two reasons why people would cheer for Cory over Max. 1) Cory is their friend... 2) Cory is the lesser of the two evils. Me? I don't care who wins. I just want the challenge to be interesting. I'll be renegade to either.

As for Cory waiting till the last possible day to answer, and scheduling for the last possible day... it doesn't scream fear of challenge. It's a tactic to get under your challenger's skin. I did the exact same thing against Cas when he challenged me... and I took it further by opting it go to a single shot when I knew he wanted a best of three. Whether or not this is a tactic to be employed is up to you; I just don't think it's indicative of being afraid of the challenge.

What I DO see as valid for questioning Cory's willingness to step into the ring is his use of the Test. Normally, I'm not a fan of the test, but I definitely see its uses. It keeps some nitwits honest and it gives some added interest to the challenge. Frankly, with Cory's response, I figure we'll see a second challenge on the same night, if Cory decides to employ a non-baron champion to test Max, and is successful.

Either way, I'm even more glad I beat Max when he challenged me, instead of using the Tenth as a simple stepping stone in his bid for Overlordship. But, I won't cheer against him because of it; I just cheer for neither, and hope that no matter what, the challenge ends up being an interesting one.

Var Medici-Giovanni

[Cletus Ganderfald]

I'd be dissapointed if the Overlord elected to test a Baron. He wouldn't be considered the Supreme Duelist any longer to me.

And on a different tangent, I am still seeking a challenger.

Cletus Ganderfald

[Max Blue]

For those that don't know, the challenge will be held Friday the 23rd at 9:00 pm (est).


MQB

[G]

Let's clarify another thing. What isn't a greedy reason to issue chaenge to the title?

There's plenty of reasons out there that aren't greedy. But I refuse to give you a list of them for your future use. If you want to know what non-greed reasons are, you'd better come up with them yourself.

G
(Not posting as a member of Staff, but as a character in a role playing enviroment. The opinions of G do not reflect the player of G. Because G doesn't like Max does not mean the player of G has an opinion one way or another.)

[Maria Graziano]

Wow, G'nort. I do so love your lessons on who is greedy and who isn't. Please tell me the part again about how being loyal to a psycho, baroness-killing monster demon is the morally sound thing to do?

As I remember, it was Max who had been screaming at the top of his lungs that Shakira was insane and then put himself at risk by pretending to work with her to protect several members of the staff, including my brother, who were working against her. According to reports I have heard, he was also there to fight alongside Xeno the night Shakira was killed.

This is a man who put his life on the line for all of you, while you were in bed with her, and the most you can come up with is "he's annoying"? Damn right, he's annoying. He's a duelist, not a diplomat. Most of you are obnoxious too.

What I really find hilarious is everybody's accusation that Max used the ring as a jumping point. Are you all stupid? Why the hell would he do that? The man collects peer wins faster than Karen hands them out. It would have been a hell of a lot easier for him to just collect five additional wins from idiot warlords like myself and skipped having to go three duels against Sartan -- a former Overlord and many-time Baron.

As for Var's crap about how Cory not a challenge-ducking panzy, that's complete bull. In this day of people just begging for challenges, Cory's tying himself up because he knows that a series of challenges will follow if he does not. Be a man. Fight your match. Shut the hell up.

All hail the challenge-ducking, panzy Overlord and Diamond!

- MGB

[G]

Fine, Maria. Max is a great, awesome, but annoying guy.

When it turns around and bites you, don't say I didn't warn you. Of course, I know how loyal you are to your friends and family.

Please tell me the part again about how being loyal to a psycho, baroness-killing monster demon is the morally sound thing to do?

I assume you're referring to the time I was a baron and was loyal to Shakira. Why don't you come ask me what my deal was with her, and find out the number of slaves freed with no effort on my part but to say that I was loyal. Don't act like my loyalty to her was something special to me. Have you ever seen me defend her? Have you ever seen me fight for her? Newp.

This is a man who put his life on the line for all of you, while you were in bed with her, and the most you can come up with is "he's annoying"? Damn right, he's annoying. He's a duelist, not a diplomat. Most of you are obnoxious too.

This is a man who is mentally unstable and attacks people when they're not in a ring. If you think he is so great, perhaps you're only seeing him as he wants you to see him. And again, your support for him is going to turn against you sometime. The "While I was in bed with her" line was cute. I take it you've never been in bed with anyone other than your husband for a one night stand. Oh, and I am So Sure that so much was done in the couple of hours we were together. He probably threw some kittens into a bag, then into the river because he thought they were in league with the then Overlord.

What I really find hilarious is everybody's accusation that Max used the ring as a jumping point. Are you all stupid? Why the hell would he do that? The man collects peer wins faster than Karen hands them out. It would have been a hell of a lot easier for him to just collect five additional wins from idiot warlords like myself and skipped having to go three duels against Sartan -- a former Overlord and many-time Baron.

Yes, it is funny. Why would he do that? Why don't you ask him. He could have easily gotten 5 more wins, I know I have my share of losses against him. Of course, if all he wanted was the Overlord title, why did he bother getting the Barony? I cannot believe you do not see that he is using it just as a jumping point. Why? Because if he Loses the Overlord shot, guess what, he's *STILL* a Baron. What happens then? Next month, another free shot at the OL. He loses, next month, another free shot at the OL. Being a Baron guarantees he'll always have a shot and never, ever, need the Peer Wins to go after the OL. Were he to have the 15, then lose to the OL, guess what, he has to work on getting another 15 and wait a full cycle before challenging again.(Note: I don't think that part was changed in the rules.) So, using the Barony as a jumping point is all he's using it for.

In this day of people just begging for challenges, Cory's tying himself up because he knows that a series of challenges will follow if he does not. Be a man. Fight your match. Shut the hell up.

The only person I have seen begging for challenges is Cletus. Who else is publicly doing so? There's a series of challengers coming after Max? Who are they? You're pulling some stuff out of nowhere, Maria. This isn't a ducking manuever.

G

[Horatio Macbeth]

My lords and ladies,

As many may know, I have been away for a few months now. I return to find a new Overlord, Master Havoick. I return to find that I have been named a Renegade Baron. This in itself is no problem. The Overlord surely has a reason for placing me as such.

The problem I have is with the fact that our Overlord would feel the need to test the worthiness a Baron, and a former Overlord at that. I am sure that Master Havoick has his reasons for wanting to issue a test of worthiness to Master Blue. However if he does go forward with this test and succeeds in defending his title, he can expect another challenge following shortly.

Regards,

The Lord Horatio Benvolio Macbeth
Baron of the 2nd

[Maria Graziano]

The "While I was in bed with her" line was cute.

Actually, "to be in bed with someone" is a commonly used phrase meaning to be in cohorts with someone. As I try desperately not to pay attention to the many dirty, desperate women that climb in and out of your bed, I had no idea that you had been sleeping with her but that only further proves my point.

I take it you've never been in bed with anyone other than your husband for a one night stand.

Seriously, G'nort, you're in over your head with me. Why don't you turn around and bow out now? You're really embarrassing yourself. The only sense the above sentence makes is in saying that I've had a one night stand with my husband. I can assure you that we've had sex more than once as the fact of my two very public miscarriages would seem to prove.

Now if that was a pathetic attempt at insulting my reputation then I think you should ask around. I've always been loyal to my husband and there's not a man in RhyDin who can claim otherwise. In fact, if you'll remember correctly, I turned down your advances several times when I first came to RhyDin.

What happens then? Next month, another free shot at the OL. He loses, next month, another free shot at the OL.

I certainly don't claim to be a rules expert but, unless I'm greatly mistaken, Renegade Barons only get to challenge the Overlord once a cycle just like Warlords.

Because if he Loses the Overlord shot, guess what, he's *STILL* a Baron.

Exactly. The man wants to be a baron. Has anyone thought to look at possible motives Max might have had for wanting to take a ring away from Sartan? The man was loyal to the Overlord that Max hated. I've heard Sartan make fun of Max on several occasions.

No, G'nort, your pathetic attempts at standing up for a man who can't even fight his own fights in the ring or on the board is what's idiotic. I have yet to hear one person tell me what makes Cory such a damn fine Overlord because it certainly isn't his dueling.

You and your little self-righteous friends think you can jump on whomever you want to and just roll them into the ground. Well, I'm tired of sitting back and watching it happen. You pick on these kids that don't have a whole lot of friends and you just berate them until they finally give up and just leave. Does it make you feel like more of a man?

The Crew will stand up for the guys like Max and Gork against idiots like you and Xerzes. If you berate them, we'll come back at you tenfold.

MGB

[Karen Wilder]

According to reports I have heard, he was also there to fight alongside Xeno the night Shakira was killed.

I was there the night Shakira was killed. Max showed up well after she was already dead an' didn't help fightin' th' Wraiths either.