Duel of Sword Rules wording revision

[DUEL Veritas]

I would like to suggest a Duel of Swords rules wording revision, please.

The rules of DoS state the use of the move Disengage thusly:

"There are ten moves which all ranks may use, and only Disengage may be used twice in a row during a duel."

This makes it sound like Disengage may be used ONLY twice in a row, and not an unlimited number of times in a row. I was always told (even while training for calling) that Disengage could only be used twice in a row.

If it is a fact that this move can be used as many times in a row as a duelist wishes, the wording in the Game Guide should read like this:

"There are ten moves which all ranks may use, and only Disengage may be used as many times in a row during a duel as a player wishes."

Thank you for your time.

[Goldglo]

Disengage may be used twice in a row but there is no requirement that it must be used twice in a row.

It's the only move out of any of the 3 dueling games that can be used back-to-back (outside of special-rules events). With normal rules in place, duelers cannot used Disengage more than twice in a row (i.e. while back-to-back is fine, back-to-back-to-back is not).

--Matt

[Harris]

It seems there's a larger concern here in regard to the Disengage. I have always been under the same impression that the disengage is an unlimited use move. If you want to Disengage 15 rounds in a row then you can. It's not limited to only twice in a row, it can be used four, five, six times in a row.

Guess we need some old school clarification maybe so everyone is on the same page?

[G]

As far back as I can remember, as well as have seen personally, Disengage could be used an unlimited amount of time. I have seen it used, in the past, 5 times in a row.

[Andrea Anderson]

I've always read it as "twice in a row", unlike other moves that can only be used one time every other move. "Twice in a row" making it that it is outside of the norm and can be used unlimited times.

Personally, I've dis'd up to five times in a row once in a duel against old time Warlords and nothing was brought up; so I always thought it was unlimited.

[Teagan]

It was my fault. As far as I figure, move memory only lasted two rounds. The previous round and the current round. Because anything before the previous round is fair game, unless you did it the previous round.

I dissed twice in a row in rounds 9 and 10. Then I dissed twice in a row rounds 10 and 11.

[Capt Sneggle]

I remember that when you used it, even once it was considered an expression of contempt and many hot words would be exchanged. Personally I think it should have no limits as to frequency of use in a regular match.

[Amaltea]

I'm with Harris and G, as far as I know there is no limit on how many times you can use it.

[Goldglo]

I'd always interpreted "twice in a row" as a limit (e.g. two times in a row being the limit, no more) - I have no idea what the original intent was. I can't remember a time I've see it used more than back-to-back either. If I've had it wrong all these years, I apologize!

--Matt

[Jaycy Ashleana]

To add to the general consensus, my memory has always been you can use disengage an unlimited amount of times.

[Kalamere]

The general rule for all moves in the matrix games is that you can never use the same move twice in a row. Dis, being the exception to that, is stated as the opposite - you may use it twice in a row.

It's meant to be stated as the "twice in a row" exception to all others, not to limit it to only two consecutive rounds.

[Jake]

The general rule for all moves in the matrix games is that you can never use the same move twice in a row. Dis, being the exception to that, is stated as the opposite - you may use it twice in a row.

It's meant to be stated as the "twice in a row" exception to all others, not to limit it to only two consecutive rounds.

That's pretty much my recollection as well. It isn't/wasn't limited to just two consecutive rounds.

Which is not to say that it's a brilliant strategy.

[Lem DeAngelo]

I always understood the rule to be that disengage could be used consecutively as many times as the duelist wanted.

[Morgan le Fay]

I've seen and called duels where DIS was used more than twice in a row. As I was learning to duel, it was always demonstrated to me that it was the only move that could be used twice or more consecutively.

[Veritas]

Honestly, I'm not debating the legality of it being used more than twice in a row, I was just stating that the wording needs to be revised. I've asked a few other duelists as well, and they agreed that the wording does make it seem as if twice in a row is the limit, so the wording of the rule in the Game Guide is a little confusing and might need to be revised so it makes it clear that, if someone really does want to use it 15 times in a row (whoever that poor fool may be ), they (or their opponent) won't have any questions about the legality of doing so, as I did.

That being said, Teagan, that was pretty slick of you.