Challenge for Dockside

[G. Iulius Fortis]

Whereas there are only two Renegade Barons at the current time, and

Whereas the Barony of Dockside has been challenged for less recently than the Barony of Old Temple,

Now, therefore, I challenge Ticallion Carter for the Barony of Dockside. In keeping with principles of honor, I propose that I be required to be victorious in two consecutive duels to gain the Barony. Should I be defeated in either duel, I vow to accede defeat.

If such accomodations are not acceptable to the Baron, then I vow to withdraw the challenge, as it would not be honorable to gain the Barony in any other way.

G. Iulius Fortis

[Ria Graziano]

Yo, Tic.

Choose a single fight.

- Ria

[G]

This challenge is valid and may proceed.

[G]

It should also be noted that a challenger cannot rewrite the rules on a whim. If you are going to issue a challenge, you *MUST* abide by the terms of challenge already outlined. If you do not, then you are wasting time.

If a Best of Three is used, and you win one, then lose the second, and then forfeit the final duel, I will take action which may include banning from further challenging for a set period of time.

Either make the challenge properly, or do not challenge. It is not up to the challenger to set the conditions of a challenge.

[G. Iulius Fortis]

As the Supervisor has vetoed the proposed idea, I would be honorbound to withdraw the challenge, as I would not want a title if I cannot win it honorably.

However, I suppose every now and again one might have to do something slightly dishonorable if it is for the greater good. It's more important to have a challenge than no challenge at all.

[G]

It is not dishonorable to follow the rules.

[Laylla Angel]

Guillermus

I am gravely disappointed in you, old friend. Honor is not defined by the number of matches you fight in order to win the title, but how you acquit yourself during said matches - How you handle yourself before, during and after those matches.

It is not the number of fights but the manner you chose to act in. And so far, I am gravely disappointed.

[Ticallion Carter]

I hate to nitpick here, but what exactly is the situation now? Are you challenging or are you not? I'll just take it from your last line of "it's more important to have a challenge than no challenge at all" that you are in fact challenging, but you hardly make that clear.

Anyway, I feel the need to point out a few things since now I feel more than a little slighted. I hate to make this a personal issue (really, I do) but since you not-so-subtly indicated that "the greater good" would be serviced by my losing Dockside, I have to get personal.

When you challenged originally, you talked about "vows" and "honor" a number of times. You vowed to "accept defeat" if you couldn't win two matches consecutively. Now that your idea for the challenge has been shot down, all of sudden "one might have to do something slightly dishonorable if it is for the greater good" and "It's more important to have a challenge than no challenge at all." What happened to "honor" and "vows"? C'mon man. I suppose the fact that you WANT a Barony outweighs any sense of duty you feel that you owe to intangible ideals. Or maybe (and this is where my money would be) you just talked about "vows" and "honor" because you felt the community (or maybe I should say "greater good") would take a liking to using those words and at the slightest opposition, you abandoned those principles in favor of getting what you really wanted --a Barony. One final point on this, you said it would "not be honorable to gain the Barony in any other way (than your proposed winning two in a row idea)" but now you're willing to get the title in another way. So much for honor, huh?

Anyway, I apologize for taking up so much space. This just all sort of irks me (to put it very lightly). I approached you last night and asked you why you were REALLY challenging. I gave you a few opportunities to admit what this was all about. Anything from "Tical, I hate you and I don't think you deserve to be Baron" to "I just want a Barony" would've worked for me. In Brooklyn, where I'm from, not too many people cling to "honor" like they seem to do here. The most important thing a person can do to earn respect from me is be honest, especially when they're openly opposing me. That shows me you respect me enough to be upfront. I gave you the opportunity, you didn't take it. I took you at your word that it was more about "honor" for you which is why you added those stipulations. Now, my suspicions are confirmed by you saying forget about honor, it's all about the title. All I wanted was honesty, and I didn't get it through the traditional route.

More to the point: I accept your challenge. I propose the date of next Thursday (October 1st) at 9pm EST. Let me know if that doesn't work for you.

[G. Iulius Fortis]

This truly is about honor, not about the title. I do not want a title that I cannot collect honorably, and thus I withdraw the challenge.